Position Changes

Round 12 Ultimate Footy Position Changes: Who’s in the Mix?

 

With another three rounds of football under our belt, it is once again time for the regular Ultimate Footy position changes. Who is next in line to become a DPP after 12 rounds of fantasy football?

There is nothing more exciting or controversial than dissecting the potential changes. We at Footy Prophet are merely the messengers however, and not everyone can get DPP status, so keep in mind some players will have to wait a little longer than others. That being said, who are the possibilities for DPP status in Ultimate Footy this week?

Note: these suggestions are pure speculation/opinion and thus have no effect or bearing on the position changes that actually occur.

 Sure Things

Hayden Crozier (FR, added B)

Surely a lock. Ross Lyon has been using Crozier in defence for the past month, where he has shone fantasy-wise. Crozier spent 83 percent of game time in the back half against Essendon in Round 12, and that continued this week with him spending 80 percent of the game in defence against the lions.

Jack Martin (GC, added b)

Martin would be very stiff to miss out here. He is likely to be added as a defender after the last few weeks of football have seen him playing predominantly in the back half. Rodney Eade has been deploying him in defence more and more, which included giving him a role on Gary Rohan in Round 11 where he finished with 63% of game time in the defensive half of the ground. He backed this up by also spending time in defence against Richmond (albeit not as much as previous weeks).

Josh Dunkley (WB, added F)

Although he started off his rookie-season as a centre, Dunkley has been played forward in the majority of his games. With five matches under his belt now and some impressive form up forward, Dunkley should be another definite DPP. Like Marcus Bontempelli throughout the opening three rounds of the season, Dunkley has been deployed as the big bodied midfielder down forward for the Bulldogs, and if Bontempelli had done enough to earn it, then so too has Josh Dunkley.

 

Possibilities

Hamish Hartlett (PA, added B)

After playing 62% of his game in the defensive half in Round 11 and 90% before that against the Dee’s in round 10, Hartlett must be in consideration for a position change. He has played 61% of his game time for the season in the back half, and on Saturday, he lined up on Tory Dickson in defence throughout some parts of the game. Hartlett will be a line ball decision, and will either make or not make the cut by a slim margin.

Bernie Vince (ME, added B)

Vince has also been spending a decent amount of time in the defensive half recently, including 63% and 67% in the past two weeks. This along with playing behind the ball in the midfield may help push him for an added backline status. Being vital to the Dee’s midfield core and not being a genuine defender, however, may mean he misses out.

Pearce Hanley (BL, added b)

Hanley is always in the conversation, and must get a mention here due to his history as a defender, as well as increased time spent coming out of the back half.  Hartlett far more likely, but Hanley may still be a chance.

After being deployed forward earlier in the season while also fulfilling his normal duties as a midfielder, Hanley’s return to defence in recent weeks has again ignited conversation about a move. Guys like Tom Cutler have moved up the field leaving Hanley to toil as the Lions’ link up player out of defence. But as we have seen in previous weeks, Ultimate Footy have been conservative in gifting gun midfielders a position upgrade, just for playing a kick behind the ball in defence.

Jake Lloyd (SY, added b)

Another player in line for a possible position change this week, Lloyd is making a strong push for defence status with 26 rebound 50’s for the year. The young Swan spent 53% of his game time in the back half this week, and 65% in Round 11. Although named on a wing each week, Lloyd’s job is to work deep into defence and he seldom enters the forward 50, with Coach John Longmire preferring him to stay at half forward as part of a defensive arc to keep the ball in the Swans’ forward line.

Lachie Hunter (WB, added B)

With seven rebound 50’s against the Power this week, and a total of 29 for the year, a case can be made for Hunter as a defender. The increase in his rebound 50’s, along with 60% and 64% game time in the back half the past two weeks means he could be set up as a DPP. .  

 

Not Far Off

Kade Stewart (HW, added f)

In his first season, Stewart has been listed only as a centre. In his first two games however, he has played predominantly up forward. With just two games under his belt he won’t get a position change this week, but if he continues to get games for the hawks he is sure to keep playing up forward.

James Sicily (HW, added b)

In the past 2 weeks, Alastair Clarkson has used Sicily as a defender along with time up forward. His game times lie at 50% and 67% in the defensive half for the past two weeks. Although not enough to warrant a position change just yet, his time may be soon if his defensive role persists.

Taylor Adams (added b)

After coming close to DPP status last time, Adams injured his hamstring and is set to be out up until around Round 16. When he returns, however, he is likely staying back and this could set him up for DPP status. Before his most recent injury, Adams was playing as a genuine midfielder, but for two games earlier in the frame, was trialled as a sweeping player behind the play. Given his estimated return is around Round 16, which falls after the last round of position changes in Round 15, it’s unlikely we’ll see Adams get defender status this season.

 

41 Comments

41 Comments

  1. John

    June 15, 2016 at 10:59 am

    Why the talk on Hartlett?
    Watch last weeks game against Bulldogs, started on Wing and ran with Picken and Hunter in the first qu.
    Stats say he played midfield/fwd if anything 62% fwd heat map and 3 inside 50s with 0 rebound 50s!!

  2. JD

    June 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Obviously can’t get it this week, but based on his first two games Jack Trengove from Melbourne will be a huge chance in round 15

    73% in the back half and only 2 possessions I n his forward 50.

    Can’t get a look in the Dees midfield with Viney, Jones, Oliver, Tyson, Bugg and Petracca playing through there

  3. Cameron

    June 14, 2016 at 7:42 pm

    You say Adams won’t because he played mid in his most recent game. But against the dogs when he got injured he lined up off hbf and had 89% def on his heat map. Last 3 games Adams played he was pure def and Collingwood won all 3 bucks will definitely play him in def when he is fit again.

  4. simmo

    June 14, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    hartlett hanley have to be locks

  5. Adam

    June 14, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Why do people bang on about where a player is named? Teams named in the paper are irrelevant with players often named out of position.

    The analysis should be on where players line up with Bernie Vince predominately in the Backline playing on a high half forward.

    Vince played more midfield time in the game Viney was out, but returned to half back this week with Viney back in as indicated by 12 rebound 50’s. If every centre bounce was analysed from his last month with respect to his position, no one could possibly argue that he’s not playing in the Backline

    If anyone proof is needed check out this quote from Paul Roos: https://twitter.com/melbournefc/status/737779445566603264

    Should be a moral to become a defender

    • Stuart

      June 15, 2016 at 10:59 am

      Great call, this surely has to happen. Cant ignore his stats anymore

  6. Bog

    June 14, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    I would be a very happy man if Vince got B status, but i can’t see it happening, he spends more time down back than most midfielders but he is still a midfielder and plays all over the ground. Plus UF will probably be very cautious with big name DPP changes after they prematurely upgraded Guthrie and Bont

  7. James

    June 14, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    ‘Before his most recent injury, Adams was playing as a genuine midfielder, but for two games earlier in the frame, was trialled as a sweeping player behind the play.’

    Not sure what rock you’ve been under, but Adams has been playing as a pure defender since round 5. He hasn’t attended a centre bounce since round 4. He most certainly wasn’t playing as a genuine midfielder before his most recent injury.

    • Ryan

      June 14, 2016 at 4:52 pm

      Yep, I was about to chime in with this also.
      Adams should be a lock for DPP, in his last game vs bulldogs he was playing a starring role of the HBF and definitely wasnt playing as a genuine midfielder- from a pies supporter

  8. Teuvo

    June 14, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Hartlett played midfield on the weekend, what are you all on about? He was sitting on the wing all day. He had 3 inside 50s and zero rebound 50s – defenders don’t have zero rebound 50s in a game. I’m sure his heat maps would reflect this so go have a look (since apparently no one here actually watches footy anymore but everyone seems to be an expert on heat maps).

    Also its entirely counterproductive to even mention someone like Lachie Hunter in an article like this. I can see that you might want to generate some excitement, but to mention a “pure mid” (to quote Anthony Wingard) in the conversation for back eligibility is:
    1) a waste of time, and
    2) destabilising, as other rubbish ideas seem almost reasonable by comparison. It’s no wonder people fill the comments section demanding one of their best mids gain DPP if you’re talking about Hunter as being a possibility.

  9. Gary

    June 14, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Guys UF aren’t silly and won’t make the mistake with giving Hartlett a change and not the others. He is playing the same role floating across the backline as Kelly, Hanley, Ellis, Vince, Mundy and Penders were/are.

    Hartlett
    Rd 12 – 0 rebound 50, 3 inside 50 and a goal assist, spent 62% Forward heat map
    Named on HFF
    The defenders were Pittard, Krakour, DBJ, Austin, Impey, Oshea, Broadbent and Stewart

    Season of 61% defensive heat map. If they give him defender status ahead of Josh Kelly, Hanley, Vince, Mundy, Penders and Ellis who all had better stats to back them up throughout the year it’s a joke

    • Scott

      June 14, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      Hey Gary,

      who did vince matchup on? Hanley? Ellis? any of those blokes matchup on a forward? or were any of them seen in marking contests defending or spoiling?

      Hartlett was seen leaving blair to spoil travis cloke. Now your eyes may be painted on or something but none of these guys compare to the role hartlett has been playing they are floating back. Hartlett is genuinely manning an opponent.

      Disagree with your thoughts here buddy. Cute thoughts though. 😉

      • Gary

        June 14, 2016 at 4:56 pm

        This guy! Rd 12 was against Bulldogs, stop embarrassing yourself. He played majority off a wing and through the middle. Stats again as you must have missed it

        Rd12 (VS WESTERN BULLDOGS) – 0 rebound 50, 3 inside 50 and a goal assist, spent 62% Forward heat map

        You know you can watch the replay on AFL Website? I suggest you take a look as UF will have or will watch it closely and notice he played a more midfield role and anything down back was the similar sweeping role as the others. He even started the game on a Wing opposed to Picken and a few bounces later against Hunter.
        Good luck all the same as it doesn’t impact our league a whole lot but I just don’t think he deserves it if others didn’t get it.

      • David

        June 14, 2016 at 4:59 pm

        You sound like a ripping bloke Scott…

        • Nathan

          June 14, 2016 at 5:37 pm

          Lol was thinking the same thing.

          • Neil

            June 14, 2016 at 6:25 pm

            Bit precious there Scott…..The bloke was just stating the facts from his most recent game.

      • Reijo

        June 14, 2016 at 5:03 pm

        Gary is correct. Scott No Mates is wrong.

        You’re referring to Hartlett putting in a spoil on Travis Cloke as being evidence that he should gain DPP? Noting that he wasn’t playing against Cloke on the weekend (unless he was playing for Casey) it still doesn’t change the fact that Hartlett was clearly playing midfield on the weekend as per the stats put up by Gary. This includes his heatmap that looks like a volcano going off in the middle of the ground.

        Just because he sagged off Jarryd Blair (who plays largely in the midfield by the way) to spoil a forward two weeks ago doesn’t mean that he is spending 70% of game time as a defender. The mere fact that he played entirely mid on the weekend (as Gary astutely pointed out) should be enough to write him off for back eligibility.

        He is playing the same sweeping wingman role like all of those others mentioned (Ellis, Vince, etc) and hopefully none of them gain B.

  10. Tom

    June 14, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    Hartlett to easily get back status or something is wrong with UF.. Has clearly been playing in defense for a while now. It would be an absolute rort if Hartlett doesnt get it while the likes of Bontempelli and Guthrie did

  11. Nathan

    June 14, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Great article Dom. Tough gig doing this article lol.

  12. The_Hansard

    June 14, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    I watched Hanley in round 7 against port and it looked like he was scared of getting called off side (he wouldn’t go anywhere near the centre circle). This was even after rocky went down with an injury, so it’s probably safe to say that’s he’s a defender

  13. Nigel

    June 14, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    Hanley to be given back status? haha if that happens Ultimate Footy would be the biggest laughing stock. two weeks ago he played up forward. How could they make a change knowing hes been thrown from position to position to cover needs. Theres no certainty in his position.

  14. Scott

    June 14, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    Hartlett played the majority of the game on dickson this week. the week before he spent most of the day on blair. if that is not an indication of a role change i dont know what is. Ive never seen nor heard of dickson or blair been called a midfielder. they are forwards. last time i checked a midfielder plays on another midfielders and a defender on a forward. a bit like netball. Goal Attack/Goal Defence. Common sense has to prevail in this one. Hartlett is playing as a backmen. give him the change.

  15. Ben

    June 14, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    Hartlett has to be a sure thing. Kidding themselves if he’s not. He’s been playing as a pure defender that last month. It’s pretty clear that he is. Just look at his stats. Something has changed… I don’t have Hartlett and I don’t think he’s fantasy relevant even if he did change but if they are changing positions this is one of the no brainers. No doubt UF will find a way to mess this one up.

  16. Punta

    June 14, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    Have to concur with others here, Hartlett been nowhere near the midfield this year, has constantly been used as a defender, loose man in defence or defensive wingman behind the ball and clearly being used in a defensive role, his scores have reflected this. Vince, Hunter and Mundy have been involved in too many centre circle stoppages to say they have been playing as a defender.. No doubt they do sit behind the ball at times to give their team defensive drive, but for me Hartlett been a back 6 defender or the 7th man.

    • Dominic Haley

      June 14, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      I have to agree Hartlett should almost be a sure thing… Hunter not much of a chance but threw him in as someone to think about

  17. Clint

    June 14, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Hey guys, b ellis off the radar? Thoughts on him getting def status? Thx

    • Dominic Haley

      June 14, 2016 at 1:07 pm

      Always on the radar(never know for sure who they’re gonna give DPP), guys like him and Hanley have been floating around for a while

  18. Hans Frederick Jonsson

    June 14, 2016 at 11:34 am

    The 70% number is only used if they need a reason not to give it to someone. Heat maps have confused everyone too. As if Hunter is a back.

    One you’ve missed is Blake Acres. Been in and out of the side but has been playing half forward basically all year. Keep looking for positions to make up for people though rather than talking about the lesser players who clearly deserve it.

    • Dominic Haley

      June 14, 2016 at 1:08 pm

      Hunter is definitely a long shot, I like Hartlett as a back though!! I like your thinking on Acres!

  19. Curious Giraffe

    June 14, 2016 at 11:30 am

    Curious as to why there was no mention of Mundy? I have him stashed on my bench waiting for DPP, if theres no chance on this round whats your thoughts about round 15?

    • Dominic Haley

      June 14, 2016 at 1:11 pm

      He may miss out this time, but he’s definitely on the cusp could make it round 15

  20. Blueboys

    June 14, 2016 at 11:15 am

    Geez can’t believe Hunter even got mentioned in this article…….surely he can’t be any sort of chance to get back upgrade. When does he ever play as a back??
    He pretty much runs to any gap on the field he can get some free ball.
    Reckon there would be some owners of Adams, Vnce, Hartlett and Mundy who’d be very angry……and rightly so too.

    • Anthony Wingard

      June 14, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      Hi Blueboys, this article is just pure speculation and Hunter’s name was considered after quite a few rebound fifties over the past two rounds. I don’t think he has come close to meeting the mark to get defender status because as you said, he is pure midfielder.

  21. Whizzbang Wise

    June 14, 2016 at 11:03 am

    The Whizzbang Wise has a question!
    The whizzle-My-Dizzle wants to know why Jade Gresham doesn’t get a mention to have his forward status added?
    Seems to be playing the small forwrd role that The Dizzle used to play back in the day.
    Thanks,
    Foo-Shizzle-my-Nizzle.
    The Dizzle

    • Dominic Haley

      June 14, 2016 at 1:16 pm

      Seems young players like Dunkley, Stewart and Gresham are getting plenty of play time up forward hey Whizzbang Wise?? He is a chance but Dunkley would definitely get the nod over him.

      • Whizzbang Wise

        June 15, 2016 at 12:22 pm

        Whizzle-my-dizzle was on the mizzle-my-fizzle.

  22. Boony

    June 14, 2016 at 10:58 am

    Danyle Pearce was named by Freo on HBF for the 4 rounds 8-11 with a return to the wing on the weekend.

    I’d suggest he’s in the monitor camp.

    On Lachie Hunter – with the amount of midfield rotation that the Doggies run I’d suggest it’s hard for any of the midfield types at the dogs (eg Picken as well) to get DPP – which with the 70% is as it should be.

  23. Kain

    June 14, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Isn’t the magic number 70% in that position over the course of the season? so HH and Vince should not apply as yet? or is it where they line up at stoppages from CD stats. Liam Picken any chance of fwd status?
    good article well played

    • Dominic Haley

      June 14, 2016 at 1:20 pm

      Don’t think Picken is much of a shot. We don’t have any say on who get’s picked but yes if a player is getting somewhere around 70% over the course of the season I feel they are always a shot. HH should be a lock, but Vince is much less of a chance.

  24. Wayne

    June 14, 2016 at 10:41 am

    Hunter and lloyd? Yes please!

  25. josh

    June 14, 2016 at 10:37 am

    If Hartlett doesn’t get B status the system is a joke.

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